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Jennifer, that’s abominable for you to say – trans women belong in women’s prisons, not men’s. Forcing them into men’s prisons is extremely dangerous for them and leads to rampant sexual assault. They are women and should be placed as such. If you’ve ever worked in corrections you’d understand how prisoners act and how things get violent and aggressive and how little privacy anyone has. You might be an in a dormitory with no doors or curtains around the toilet and if you have a penis the women in there will kill you. Promise. Because when they can’t get their trans medications. They will grow facial hair. Body hair. Other features change. And many of those women. Will freak out. And then the trans woman will be in danger. Our transwomen were as safe as our gay men at our facility. It wasn’t perfect but even straight males are assaulted. Its prison and people re angry, mentally hurt sometimes, substance abuse is common. And there are other Princess Mononoke To see with eyes unclouded by hate shirt like gangs and debt etc.
Jennifer, your rants are riddled with gish galloping and significant formal and informal logical fallacies. There genuinely isn’t enough time in the day to refute all of your asinine claims. Go take some time to unlearn your hatred, biases, or misunderstandings, whichever they may be, regarding trans people. Because you are way off base here, regardless of your prior experience working in corrections, which is a very poorly constructed appeal to authority by the way. Yes, many prisoners can be violent and aggressive towards minority groups – that isn’t a justification to place trans women into men’s prisons, any more than it’s a justification to place gay women in men’s prisons. And are you actually suggesting doubly punishing trans women who are unconstitutionally denied their necessary Princess Mononoke To see with eyes unclouded by hate shirt? Shameful. I adore trans people. Hell, I fought for their rights and policy rights at our facility and made sure they got their special showers and empathized when they got put in seg before shipping them to a different facility where they could be monitored differently. I was there for them when they couldn’t shave in seg and when they didn’t have their meds and when officers disrespected them and would call them he. You may not want to call them she, most would not, I emphasized that they and they are correct for everyone. But it doesn’t change that their safety isn’t what you think it would be and you have no idea why it’s not because you don’t work corrections.
Apparently not – being “there for them” would entail correctly gendering them (she/her, not “they/them) and finding a way to get them the medications they were being cruelly denied. When women like Jena (and countless other trans women) are forced into men’s prisons and harassed, assaulted, denied medications, and repeatedly raped: that’s a huge problem. Even at the prison you worked at that you claim was somehow tolerable, you admit they were denied medications and placed & treated as men. You’re part of the problem for supporting this harmful discrimination. Would YOU like to be forced into a men’s prison, as long as a few COs claimed it would somehow be “safer” for you despite all evidence to the contrary? Because that’s what you support doing to these women. Yes, my real-world experience is trounced”. Yes, that’s kind of how an appeal to authority fallacy works. You’re not the only corrections facility worker in existence, and you certainly aren’t the leading authority on corrections protocol. So yeah, your “real-world experience” is entirely irrelevant to the discussion, because it has no bearing on the issue other than “yeah I worked at this kind of place, my specific one did it this way.” Good for you? Just because your facility had a backward ass protocol doesn’t mean it isn’t a breach of civil liberties. For the record yes, I am involved in the incarceration reform of my community, which is also irrelevant to the discussion, but apparently I need to meet that criteria for you in order to make the factual statement that trans inmates are getting their civil liberties violated.